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NEW Joint Ownership Racing Partnership Program!!!
$1000 Tax deductable !!!
No jokes, No schemes, No scams !!!
Interview with Chaplain Brad
Good Afternoon Chaplain Brad, we have some questions from people about this NEW Program. Please can you explain some of the matters that people have shared. Simple clarification for those that like horses and might be interested in being an owner, and being on TV in the Winners Circle.
H.I. question = First question: How is it possible to someone to become a Racehorse owner for $1000. That sounds ridiculous.
Chaplain Brad: LOL. Because are a non-profit organization, that does not do not receive any government money for the FREE Vocational Training Program (teaches under-educated and under-privileged adults to become horse farm workers), we breed quality foals with the revenues helping to pay the bills. With the NEW Joint Ownership Racing Partnership Program, YOU SHARE the ownership with other people, therefore EVERYONE owns the horse together. The money is pooled.
H.I. question = How many people share together?
Chaplain Brad: We have 3 different programs ranging from 5 to 20 people sharing ownership. We called it a Joint Ownership Racing Partnership, but its better known as a *Racing Company*.
H.I. question = The Jockey Club Official records says that the average yearling Thoroughbred racehorse in 2015 sold for $65,591 USD ($81,000 Canadian), so how can people get involved with HORSES International for so little? $1000 ? Is that possible?
Chaplain Brad: Well it's simple. One person new to horse ownership should never risk $80,000 on a horse. Firstly: who has an extra 80 Grand just sitting in the bank without anything to do with it, LOL, and Secondly: It would be extremely risky. Most people have no idea what they should look for, and You end up paying $80,000 for a $600 horse because it looks the same as a million dollar colt. And in all honesty, there's no one out there that you should trust with your money. History shows that there are charlatans in the sport just waiting to *HELP* convince you to purchase a yearling at auction that no one else wants, but in reality, the price is being bid up higher and higher by a buddy of your *new friend*, just so you will over-pay. It's an old horse auction trick going back to the 1800's.
H.I. question = So how does a person invest only $1000, and become a horse owner for so little money?
Chaplain Brad: Easy!!! Together we purchase a high-quality Thoroughbred race mare, and breed her to a high-quality stallion, using the ultimate Stallion-Mare pedigree breeding cross available. As a shareholder, you only invest a small amount because the costs and expenses are shared by everyone, and then the rewards come racing in.
H.I. question = It sort of sounds like the old saying: Never buy retail. LOL.
Chaplain Brad: EXACTLY!!! A pair of Nike HyperAdapt 1.0 retails for $720 USD, but we all believe that it costs $25 to make them, the rest is Pure Profits for people that don't make anything. The same with Thoroughbreds. The yearling sells for $80,000, but the auctioneer takes his 10% plus 13% HST, and the Bloodstock Agent that prepares the horse for auction may take another 10% etc etc etc. So remember when you are paying $1.99 a pound for an apple at the grocery store, the farmer that grew them probably got 8 cents. There is one breeder that could tell you about the experience of sending a yearling to auction, after paying all the expenses, he actually lost money.
Note: An important point of information: It is becoming a regular occurrence that breeders are having the foals *Surgically altered* before sending them to the auction ring, to maximize the possible selling price, and this is NOT recorded for the perspective buyers knowledge. A foal that may LOOK great, but never be able to race. Much like buying a used car at auction, LOL. It looks fantastic and perfectly clean, and 300 miles later the wheels fall off.
H.I. question = The AVERAGE yearling sells for $81,000, but how can you be sure that the foals you breed are average quality or better?
Chaplain Brad: Great question. The easy answer is: WE HAVE TO! Because we get no government money, the higher the quality foals to sell, the stronger the programs grow.
Also, part of our FREE course teaches pedigree crossing and genetics, as well as proper mare and foal care. Exhaustive computer database research and we use of various breeding systems used throughout time, we identify the breeding cross that is the optimum available, with the highest likelihood that the offspring foal will compete and succeed on the racetrack. We use statistical evidence and hundreds of man hours goes into each breeding cross, something that a *For-Profit Horse Business* simply can't equal. Our staff are all volunteers.
H.I. question = That sounds simple enough. Does it work?
Chaplain Brad: Example: People bought a race mare Love the Chase from Maryland for $8000 and then bred her to a Kentucky bred stallion Lucky Pulpit for $2500. The first 3 foals have ALL raced including: California Chrome $14,752,650, Hope's Love $8,562 and a 3-year-old filly R Sunday Surprise that's won a $60,000 race at Del Mar.
H.I. question = So when the broodmare has a baby foal the owners then must race the baby foal?
Chaplain Brad: Not exactly, the *Racing Company* may sell the foal, or keep the one to race. Also you can breed the mare to a variety of different stallions from year to year, maximizing the future interest in how each one is doing.
Example: Some people claimed a mare called LEE GAGE for $10,000, an ordinary mare with solid but no World-Class bloodlines (Fit to Fight - Starry Flag, by Admiral's Flag). She had raced 60 times at 11 different tracks for various trainers and owners, earning $153,532. The owners bred her 3 times: in 2009 to Kentucky Stallion GRAND REWARD ($8500) and in 2010 and 2011 to Kentucky Derby Winner FUSAICHI PEGASUS ($15,000) with good results:
March Reward 31 races 3-6-5 $120,306 ,
Engaginglee 25 races 4-6-4 $340,620 (who they still own today), and
Twenty Gauge 29 races 2-6-1 $ 68,980 (still racing).
A $10,000 investment bred 3 times to high quality stallions, producing the opportunity to watch the babies race 85 times and so far the reward has been 9 trips to the Winners Circle for photos and $$$, checks for over $525,000.
H.I. question = Interesting that these owners still own one of the horses today, and sold the other 2 to keep cash flow.
Chaplain Brad: Exactly, YOU choose the exact type of horse that you want to raise and race, with a failsafe that the *Racing Company* can sell the offspring foal at any time. With the average yearling selling for $80,000, it may be best to keep the babies that are most desired and sell the others to pay the bills and keep the program going strong.
H.I. question = If this is easy, why isn't it begin done?
Chaplain Brad: IT IS !!! We aren't re-inventing the wheel. This style of breeding is going on around the World. I spent 6 months in Ecuador and visited the thoroughbred racetrack and some farms. They LOVE HORSE RACING !!! Entire families take buses and spend the entire day at the racetrack. BUT, the average income in Ecuador is $4500 a year, and no one can afford to come to North America to buy a $10,000 horse, so groups of people work together to buy a Stallion or some mares and have them shipped south. Some of the best horses in Ecuador are from this program type.
H.I. question = Are there Northern Hemisphere stables starting to do something similar as well?
Chaplain Brad: YES !!! Ed Dunlop the famous Thoroughbred racing trainer based in Suffolk, England said: *The thrill of racehorse ownership was once the preserve of a wealthy few, but now the joys of the Turf are far more widely available...we have many partnerships and syndicates, where the costs are spread between like-minded individuals but the fun of owning your own horse is as great as ever.*
H.I. question = Should people feel secure getting involved?
Chaplain Brad: YES !!! There's an ever increasing need for quality horses being born. In 1955 the average race in North America had more than 9 horses, by 2003 it was down to 8.3 per race, and in 2016 bottomed to only 7.5.
H.I. question = But those are stats, what does it really mean to the investor with the $1000 ?
Chaplain Brad: Okay, In 2016, there were 3,454 races held in New York, with $52,136 average purse. 5,999 horses participated in these races, BUT, there were only 1,464 foals born in New York. That's why many races are run with only 4 or 5 horses. There aren't enough quality horses being born for the amount of races. It has happened that entire race days have been cancelled because there weren't enough horses to compete. New York averaged 7.4 horses per race, even though there is room in the starting gate for 10.
H.I. question = You mentioned something about Tax Deductions??? How does that work?
Chaplain Brad: A *Racing Company* is formed with shareholders that invest a small amount, and you enjoy the tax savings associated with investing in a new *Company*. The initial investment and any other bills are ALL TAX DEDUCTIBLE and shared equally by all shareholders.
H.I. question = But there must be some risks, nothing is TOO GOOD to be true.
Chaplain Brad: Yes, of course, however let's list the risks. For example: a NEW Joint Ownership Racing Partnership invest $1,000 each, and buys a good quality racing mare for $10,000. They then send the mare to Kentucky to be bred to a Stallion, for this example we will use Belmont Stakes Winner BIRDSTONE (earnings $1,575,600) with a $5000 Stud Fee. The breeding contract says that you pay nothing unless the baby foal *stands and nurses its mother*, so in the horrible event of a miscarriage or the mother aborts, the *Racing Company* pays NOTHING !!! eliminating all risks to the mare's owners. Also, if the *Racing Company* decides NOT to keep the foal for racing, the average selling price of a foal fathered by BIRDSTONE is $44,131... therefore you would recoup the stud fee and all other costs completely.
H.I. question = Do you think that people will be interested in this program?
Chaplain Brad: It's really difficult to say about people in Ontario. They have all seen the decline and destruction of Standardbred Harness Horse racing in the Province over the last 10 years, with many track closures, and the decline of interest in the entire sport of Harness Racing. Harness horses were available for NOTHING. It hurt many people financially and we lost a lot of good people who now hate horses. I used to breed harness horses. I gave away my last horses, including a yearling that went on to race in the USA. I gave them away for FREE !!!
H.I. question = Why would you give away your horses for FREE?
Chaplain Brad: I saw the end coming fast. To many people in Ontario have seen too many friends go *Horse broke* in harness racing.
The Average yearling sold for $4,812 (Canadian dollars) at the 2015 Fall Extravaganza Mixed Sale. Every seller lost money, breeding a mare and paying a stud fee, all for less than nothing.
Example of the problem: September 28, 2017 The LARGEST PURSES at the following tracks Toronto (Mohawk) $18,000, Hamilton (Flamboro) $8,800, Ottawa $5,950. and it's not any better in the USA, same date: The LARGEST PURSES at Monticello, NY $5000, Freehold, NJ $4000, Vernon Downs, NY $6000. Those aren't AVERAGE PURSES, those are the RICHEST RACES of the night!!! In comparison on Sept 23, 2017 the race with the Largest Purse at Fort Erie (Ontario) was $18,600, and at Finger Lakes (Farmington, NY) was $23,000.
To make it extremely clear, from Jan 1 to Sept 25, 2017, TWO Harness Horses made $1 million in the entire USA, and only ELEVEN made over $500,000.
How to compare to Thoroughbred Racing, during the same time period, you would have to own the TOP 11 Harness pacing Horses in the USA, OR, the TOP 16 Trotting Horses to equal the earnings of the Top Thoroughbred ARROGATE.
H.I. question = WOW the numbers are staggeringly different. $80,000 for the average Thoroughbred colt and less than $5000 for a Standardbred Harness race yearling. Why the huge difference?
Chaplain Brad: Simple: Supply and demand. Nobody wants Harness horses. Harness racing is dying a painfully slow death. My Great-Grandfather raced Trotters in Ontario. So I grew up with it, but, it's NOT a Worldwide sport. Harness racing doesn't exist much outside of Ontario and part of the USA on a professional level. People are moving to the USA and Canada from countries all over the world...where they have THOROUGHBRED RACING. They have never seen harness racing and they mostly think it is slow and boring. Therefore less fans, Equals less betting, Equals less money !!!
H.I. question = Live Thoroughbred Racing is certainly exciting, and it seems to draw the attention of Hollywood stars and the like.
Chaplain Brad: Yes that's true. It's the only place that I would have met the Queen of England. LOL.
Where could YOU meet other horse owners like Toby Keith (Country music Superstar), Joe Torre (former NY Yankees manager), celebrity chef Bobby Flay, Ronnie Wood (Rolling Stones musician), Steven Spielberg (movie director), actress Elizabeth Hurley, NFL Quarterback Drew Brees, actor Kevin Costner, Olympic Gold Medal skier Bode Miller, Wayne Rooney (England soccer Superstar) and even weight loss guru Jenny Craig, except at the race track.
H.I. question = It is certainly interesting that the *normal-average person* can get involved for $1000. I'm sure that your email is filled in no time with requests.
Chaplain Brad: I doubt that actually, LOL. Most people haven't even taken the time to read this entire interview. They quit after the heading and turned on their cell phones to see what's going on with the Kardashians. 99% of people invest their money at the local bank that earns them less than One-percent interest per year (minus the bank fees), and bitch and complain every Spring when they have to pay the Tax Man, BUT they NEVER do anything about it.
Horse ownership isn't for everyone. It's really only for intelligent men and women. Besides, in all honesty, we are really only looking for people with good character and that are enjoyable people. A Joint Ownership Racing Partnerships means that you *SHARE* in the benefits of ownership together, and who wants to share that with morons and negative people. We are looking for Positive People that enjoy the EXCITEMENT OF WINNING. Horse racing is still a COMPETITION. You don't get a *Participation Ribbon* for just showing up. A good Joint Ownership Racing Partnership understands that we exist to WIN !!! , both in the Winner Circle and Financially.
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